Eiro maina dzimumu un tagad sauksies Eira

Kā rādās vakar Delfos ir bijusi jautrība sakarā ar LETA’s ziņu par eiro dzimuma maiņu.

Latvijas Zinātņu akadēmijas (LZA) Terminoloģijas komisija vienotās Eiropas valūtas eiro nosaukumu lietošanai latviešu valodā apstiprinājusi sieviešu dzimtes lokāmā formā “eira”.

Patiesi žēl, ka Repšem, tomēr neizdevās saukt pie prāta…

Šo ieteikumu asi kritizēja toreizējais Ministru prezidents Einars Repše (JL) un viņa vadītās valdības ministri. Repše uzskatīja, ka komisijas lēmums ir “valodnieciska jocība” un aicināja izvērtēt, vai komisijai nav pārāk liela ietekme un vai tā nebūtu nedaudz “jāapšķērē”. Repše pauda cerību, ka komisija pārskatīs savu lēmumu, pretējā gadījumā “būs jāskatās, kā komisiju saukt pie prāta”.

No financenet raksta komentāriem uzzināju šo pērļu izcelsmes skaidrojumu, ko nolēmu iegrāmatot un varbūt kādreiz arī izlasīt.

90 thoughts on “Eiro maina dzimumu un tagad sauksies Eira

  1. koko

    Da valodniekiem ar nauda jāpelna… :)) Tāpē visādus stulbumus izdomā… Nekas – gan jau vēlāk pieradīsim!!! Kaut gan – tāpat vien par eiro sauksim!

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  2. daysleeper

    da vot shodien lasiiju vienaa saitaa, kursh kadreiz uztureeja to gonor.eja.lv? tam dzhekam tas saits, vot adrese darbaa palika. tur bija mineets kaut kas par cracker tulkos kaa kramplauzis tagad 🙂 un script kiddie ari bija tulkots.. chotka kaads zina iemet te to saiti.

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  3. NewAge

    Es gan atbalstu šī vārda latviskošanu un tajā vvk saitā, manuprāt, ir ļoti labi argumentēts kāpēc šim vārdam vajadzētu būt lokāmam… Tā, ka palasiet to skaidrojumu un tad te bļaustaties….

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  4. martinsb

    Bet kāpēc gan ne? Nedomāju, ka, atšķirībā no citiem valodnieku ieteikumiem, "eira" skan idiotiski. Man īstenībā ir prieks, ka beidzot viņi ir piedāvājuši kaut ko puslīdz jēdzīgu. Latviešu valodai "nepatīk" nelokāmi vārdi, un domāju, ka vienu jaunu nesmukumu apcirpt jau iedīglī par ļaunu nenāktu.
    Galvenais nevajag tik kategoriski to uzreiz visiem uzspiest – kā es to vakar ziņās dzirdēju – un ar laiku šitais aizies. Pieļauju, ka būtu pilnīgi saprātīgi atstāt "eiro" kā vienkārši novecojušu formu vai vecvārdu, un jaunos dokumentus rakstīt ar "eirām".
    Un Repše vakar pārāk aizsvilās. Lūk. Just IMHO.

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  5. Despacho

    nebūs nekāda eira, pa radio šorīt stacijā 83,8(LTV1) rīta ziņās teica 😉
    P.S. a jūs zinat kas ir cosmo disk – nezinat, klausieties rādžiņu no rīta, uzzināsiet, turklāt mexikāņu seriāli rlzzz :)) paņčita, luiss pablo utt… pēc ziņām seriāli sākas 😉

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  6. Despacho

    āā, atcerējos, vēl tur pa šito tēmu teica, ka ES statūtos vai kaut kā tml, ir noteikts, ka jābūt vienai valūtai – EIRO! tātad diskusijai var pienākt gals, jo nekādas eiras nebūs…

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  7. Emlz

    Shajaa sakaraa, kad shitaa lieta paraadiijaas pirmo reizi, izshtukojaam ka Latvieshu papiira nauda vareetu saukties Vairas, un kapeicinjas – Einaari
    "Tikai 5 Vairas 99 Einaari!" ;]

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  8. Smilgs

    Sviestu Jūs visi gvelžat. Un kāpēc tad mēs krievus vēl līdz šai dienai saucam par krieviem, nevis par rusiem? 🙂
    un igauņus par estiem.
    tad jau labāk būtu nevis Eira, bet kaut kas vēl trakāks – kaa "hameleonu rotaļas" no "the bold and the beautiful"
    es iesaku sacīt vienkārši naudiņa. i lokās, i oriģināli…

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  9. BlackHalt

    Iesaku pierastāku latviskojumu: Rublis. Lokās labi:
    rublis, rubļi, rubļa, rubļiem …
    Un tāpat mūsu lielakās latvijāņu daļas daļa šitos eiro sauks par rubļiem, bļ*. Kā arī izrunāt varēs. A to tagad "jevro". Varētu arī jevro, izrādot patiesu cieņu lienošās okupācijas pasākumam. brr. 🙂
    Ā un vel mums ir jāapstiprina beidzot vārds A. A ko? 🙂

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  10. Black Napalm

    Vakar vai aizvakar pa TV redzēju šito.. Nu tur vismaz teica ka ‘eira’ parādīsies tikai oficiālajos dokumentos bet normāli sarunvalodā/iepērkoties/mainot valūtu turpinās lietot ‘eiro’

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  11. joriks

    varētu piedāvāt visas valūtas tagad saukt sieviešu dzimtē! =) nu tā lai būtu jautrāk!
    dolārs – dolāre; lits – lita; peso – pesiņa utt =)
    būtu jau rēcīgi
    ir tiešām stulbi tas vis! jā, var jau gudri paskaidrot kāpēc tiek locīts, bet šādus vārdus taču neloka! kas notiks ja sāks pēkši cilvēku vārdus tulkot tā kā tipa būtu pareizi attiecīgajai valstij! un pilnīgs sviests sāktos!

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  12. afigel

    man domāt ka eiro jau tāpat bija labi iejuties, nah vajag kautkādu eiru ieviest vēl.laiku pa llaikam tā komisija ir viens liels cirks, es pat teiktu – katru reizi kad notiek kāda publiska terminu apspreišana.bļad da lai viņi iet ar savām starpenēm dirst un atslaukās ar eirām!

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  13. log

    es domaaju ka nosaukuman nav ne vaina eira ,, euro,,, manupraat galvensis lai shie papiiriishu guleetu kabataaa !!! nav nekaada starpiiba ar ko alu pirksim,, kaut ar tugrikiem :)))

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  14. Wulfs

    No vienas puses, tāds nepateicīgs darbs tai komisijai, tumšo tautu kustināt un kacināt…
    Izlasot tā akadēmiķa pamatojumu, kā jaunievedums liekas pat pieņemams. Nu izskatās dīvaini, bet pie visa pierod.

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  15. Jee

    Eiro par eiru sen jau gribēja nosaukt, bet tad tādu domu atmeta un nolēma palikt pie oriģinālā nosaukuma, bet tagad viņiem šo tēmu atkal vajadzēja cilāt!

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  16. fizi_sists

    Interesanti, cik no visiem kritizētājiem izlasīja to pamatojumu. Es "uz sitiena" arī biju pret "eirām" (jocīgi skan, un kādēļ mainīt kaut ko jau iegājušos). Bet – izlasīju un – raksts ir diezgan loģisks un pamatojums nemaz nav no gaisa parauts. Viņam tiešām taisnība, ka nelokāmās formas rada grūti izprotamus un divnozīmīgus teikumus. Ja vien nesākam lietot "iekš" un "priekš" lai kompensētu angļu "in" un "for" trūkumu latviešu valodā. Izlasiet to rakstu! (Starp citu tā nav cunftes goda aizstāvēšana, esmu fiziķis, ne valodnieks).

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  17. dunduks

    fizi_sists

    Viņam tiešām taisnība, ka nelokāmās formas rada grūti izprotamus un divnozīmīgus teikumus

    Arguments neiztur kritiku. Pieved pāris piemērus, kur kaut kas ir grūti saprotams vai divnozīmīgs.

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  18. Mr. Skepse

    Nu jau gan izskatās pēc tādu kompjūtertārpu salidojuma… Kas jums cita nekā nav ko darīt kā brīvdienās komentārus kļepīt.
    Laimīgie! ;]

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  23. Spameris

    PODS WAS FUCKED UP BY: NETWORK SECURITY team!!!PODS WAS FUCKED UP BY: NETWORK SECURITY team!!!PODS WAS FUCKED UP BY: NETWORK SECURITY team!!!PODS WAS FUCKED UP BY: NETWORK SECURITY team!!!PODS WAS FUCKED UP BY: NETWORK SECURITY team!!!PODS WAS FUCKED UP BY: NETWORK SECURITY team!!!PODS WAS FUCKED UP BY: NETWORK SECURITY team!!!PODS WAS FUCKED UP BY: NETWORK SECURITY team!!!PODS WAS PODS WAS FUCKED UP BY: NETWORK SECURITY team!!!PODS WAS FUCKED UP BY: NETWORK SECURITY team!!!PODS WAS FUCKED UP BY: NETWORK SECURITY team!!!PODS WAS FUCKED UP BY: NETWORK SECURITY team!!!PODS WAS FUCKED UP BY: NETWORK SECURITY team!!!PODS WAS FUCKED UP BY: NETWORK SECURITY team!!!PODS WAS FUCKED UP BY: NETWORK SECURITY team!!!PODS WAS FUCKED UP BY: NETWORK SECURITY team!!!PODS WAS FUCKED UP BY: NETWORK SECURITY team!!!PODS WAS FUCKED UP BY: NETWORK SECURITY team!!!PODS WAS FUCKED UP BY: NETWORK SECURITY team!!!PODS WAS FUCKED UP BY: NETWORK SECURITY team!!!PODS WAS FUCKED UP BY: NETWORK SECURITY 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  24. Spameris

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  25. R21vo

    par šito, atceros, bij raksts Latvijas Avīzē aptuveni pus gadu atpakaļ. toreiz tur bij smiets par to, ka tad jau arī "auto" par "autu" būtu jāsauc =]

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  26. Spiralis

    Losība… Reku šeku Dienas komentārs, kas atspoguļo arī manu viedokli:

    Vēlā eira
    Ja Latvijas Zinātņu akadēmijas Terminoloģijas komisija nupat nebūtu pieņēmusi lēmumu, ka turpmāk oficiālajos dokumentos Eiropas vienotās valūtas nosaukums būus "eira", mums pat nerastos aizdomas, ka valodnieki guļ tik ilgi.
    Ja zinātnieki būtu pamodušies pirms pieciem gadiem, kad eiro kā vienota valūta bezskaidras naudas veidā tika ieviesta Ekonomiskajā un monetārajā savienībā jeb eirozonas valstīs, viņi jau būtu aizgulējušies. Ja zinātnieki būtu atmodušies no šampanieša korķu paukšķēšanas 2002.gada 1.janvārī, kad 300 miljoni cilvēku Eiropā sāka lietot eiro banknotes un monētas, viņi jau būtu nogulējuši visu.
    Patlaban pieņemtais lēmums šķiet tik savlaicīgs, it kā to būtu pieņēmis no letarģiskā miega pamodies lācis, kurš netīšām izbāzis galvu no alas un pamanījis, ka ārā žibinās pavisam cita dzīve. Tāpēc eira pašreiz izraisa tik daudz psiholoģisku un organizatorisku problēmu. Ja zinātnieki savu kompetenci un rūpes par latviešu valodu paustu laikus, cilvēkiem nerastos nepatīkama izjūta, ka viņiem kaut kas tiek uzspiests.

    Man personīgi pret to komisiju, it īpaši tās IT apakškomisiju, ir smagas jūtas. Kāpēc mūsu valstī kaut kādiem iesīkstējušiem akadēmiķiem ir dotas tādas tiesības — izdomāt jaunvārdus un noteikt to, kā būs "pareizi" runāt, un kā — nē. Kāpēc man liekas, ka viņu "argumenti" nav vērtīgāki par veselo saprātu, un ka tādas "vārdotnes" kropļo valodu vairāk kā stihiski ieviesušies "ne-akadēmiskie" vārdi? Un, kā parasti, pamuļķu, kam "viss patīk", netrūkst…
    D*rsā jūsu zīmolus un eiras! Izformēt to s*da komisiju vajag + fiziski izrēķināties ar tiem, tā teikt, "pabeidzēt" viņu sistēmas.

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  27. MZM

    /dev/null @ 11.09.2004 / 10:09 :: Man aizdomas, ka tavam piemēram kaut kāds latvisks sakars ar pežu 😛 Iedomājaties reklāmu TV – "Jūs varat nopirkt jaunu Pežu par 5Ls dienā! Pirmā iemaxa – 0Ls" LOL
    /me iet meklēt sev jaunu Pežu. ROFL

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  28. fizi_sists

    Par komentāru #48
    {
    "D*rsā jūsu zīmolus un eiras!"
    }
    Ja ir vērts tērēt laiku lasot šos komentārus, tad tikai tāpēc, ka šeit pēc definīcijas apgrozās caurmērā saprātīgāka publika, nekā, piemēram, Delfos. Citāts tomēr liecina, ka visi jau nekad nav nevar vienādi ;-). Bet ja nu drusku iespringtu ar augstāk neminēto rievu organismā (ja vien n>1), varētu padomāt, kur radies tāds termins kā "dators" – pašlaik labi iegājies un arī (ļoti būtiski!)-īss un ērts. To – starp citu – tie paši valodnieki vien izdomāja, pats no sevis neradās. Bet man tas patīk, jo lekcijās vismaz te nav jāstostās, kā to zvēru saukt (kompjūters – gari, kompis – žargons, Vindoze – MS jau nav visur , …) . Vesela kaudze tagad iegājušos vārdu – pat tādi novazāti kā "mīlestība" – arī ir diezgan mākslīgi valodnieku izgudroti, bet tagad nevienam nesagādā problēmas.
    Njā, par to #50 Pegeout komentāru – apsveicu, malacis, kolosāli oriģināla doma, pēdējo pāris dienu laikā vismaz 100 reizes pa komentāriem vazāta. Te gribētu tomēr ko piebilst. Ja minēto vārdu nāktos ikdienā lietot tikpat bieži , kā naudas nosaukumu, tad par locīšanu varētu sākt arī domāt. (Tāpēc, piemēram, nav problēmu ar "kino" nelokāmību – 15x dienā uz to neiet). Bet ja #50 autoram tas ir tieši tik aktuāli – nu tas taču ir brīnišķīgi… ja vien viņš to nelieto vārdu atstarpju vietā, tad gan nepieciešamība likt pareizās galotnes visu domu sajauktu, un teikums paliktu nepabeigts.

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  29. Fatalis

    #54: Man gan nāk prātā savādāki piemēri. Teiksim, fails: tas ir īss, tas lokās un pie tam arī nezāģē ausis. Saits: tas pats. Cilvēki pie tiem abiem ir pieraduši, un nevienam tādi netraucē, bez tam, izklausās ne mazāk dabīgi par vārdu dators. Bet ko dara mūsu komisija? Tā izdomā *jaunus*, "latviskākus" vārdus, jo, redz, vienīgi no tās nākušie var būt "pareizi". Un viņa to dara ar milzīgu nokavešanos. Bet ar ko gan "datne" ir labāka par failu? Un "vietne" par saitu? Kāds to man var paskaidrot?
    Cits ļoti labs piemērs ir brends. Vārds, kas ir iegājies jau gadiem. *Kāpēc* tagad to bija jānomaina ar tādu murgu kā "zīmols"? Un cik ir tādu cilvēku, kam "zīmols" nekristu uz nerviem?
    Mīlestība — cik sen viņi to izveidoja? Pirms simts gadiem? Brīvvalsts laikā? Kāds tam ir sakars ar šodienu?
    "Beidzēšana". "Vienums". Skaisti. Īpaši gribētos izcelt "papele" (mousepad).
    Un nešaubos, ka eksemplārs nr. 54 runātu savādāk, ja kāds būtu, piemēram, "latviskojis" viņa uzvārdu. Vai arī darbā nāktos mocīties ar "latviskotu" MS Office.
    Starp citu, Delfu komentāros kāds jau minēja, cik ļoti tas atgādina mūsu slāvu kaimiņus. Tāda mērkaķošanās ir tieši viņu garā.

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  30. Fatalis

    Jā, un es atvainojos: visur, kur iepriekš tiku rakstījis komisija, patiesībā bija domāts vārduliskošanas lēmējbars.

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  31. ManInBlack

    nu, paskatoties uz to tabulu, kur salīdzina iespējas izteikties dažādos locījumos ar eirs, eira, eiro, var redzēt, ka ar eiru tiešām skan vislabāk. lai gan.. tomēr kaut kā dīvaini izskatās tādā "eira", ja pierasts redzēt "euro" un slengā saukt par eirikiem.

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  32. efix

    Nesen tika runāts par to, ka pie šiem inflācijas līmeņiem eiro valstī varēs ieviest ne ātrāk par 2012. gadu. Līdz tam laikam eiro izbeigsies, un Latvija saglabās latu. 🙂

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  33. Spameris

    Fatalis, un pārējiem nejēgām – neesat mēģinājuši problēmu atrast sevī, nevis citos? Jā, ir nokavēts, vēl viens nelokāms sūds latviešu valodā jau iesakņojies, bet tas tikai tāpēc, ka šis pokemonu bars jau sen ne vairs jūt latviešu valodas īpatnības, ne atšķir svešvārdus no latviešu vārdiem. Kaut vairāk būtu fizi_sistu, kam pietiek laika uzrakstīt sakarīgu domu.

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  34. ulzha

    dunduks #41 – kaut vai "samainīt eiro peso" – nu, pasaki – kas tur bija domāts? Samainīt eiras tajā kubiešu naudā vai kubiešu naudu eirās?

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  35. ulzha

    Nu re. Un vai notiktu baigā traģēdija, ja tā arī izdarītu? Pess/pesa – :D-īgi, vai vienkārši *neparasti*? *Neparasti latviski*?…

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  36. fizi_sists

    coolynx, es Tavas domas cienu, jo Tavs pods ir sakarīgs, citādi te, tālu no etniskās dzimtenes tupēdams, to nelasītu (starp citu, rakstu ar Tevis taisīto XP apostrofa draiveri, senk jū uerī mač). Bet padomā – par to peso – ir taču atšķirība, vai tas ir vārds, ko ikdienā lieto n reižu, vai arī kaut kas tik rets, ka lietošanas ērtībai nav nozīmes. Tur jau arī tā starpība. Es arī pirmajā brīdī nosmējos, bet izlasījušam to linku, nācās atzīt, ka turienes argumenti nav bez loģikas. Turpretim, citos gadījumos, piemēram, kāpēc failu vajadzētu aizvietot ar datni – īpašu jēgu tiešām neredzu, abi viena garuma, un neviens nav no Lielvārdes rakstiem taisīts.

    Vispār jau tā saceltā jezga ir stipri groteska, pūķis lien pa vienām durvīm, bet latvju varoņi nikniem ģīmjiem sparīgi vicinās ar zobeniem pie pieliekamā kambara durtiņām. Vispirms nejēga žurnālists nav mācējis iztulkot, ko tad īsti nozīmē "spelling", visi metās varonīgi aizstāvēt "eiro" (domādami, ka tad nekas nebūs jāmaina), bet Briseles birokrāti taču izdomājuši, ka visiem jāraksta "euro" (bet izrunājiet kā gribat, tāpat jūsu valodu neviens nesaprot).

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  37. coolynx

    fizi_sists: Es piekrītu tam viedoklim, ka mūsu valodnieki ir konkrēti aizgulējušies un tikai tādēļ, ka šis vārds "eiro", jau ir vairāku gadu garumā iegājies mūsu valodā, kaut kādi jaunievedumi skan un skanēs stulbi. Bet pacīnīties un izlaist tvaiku jau vajag. Man pašam ir dziļi pie kājas kā to sauc, galvenais, lai to vienību skaits manā kabatā būtu vairāk. Bez tam, lata devalvāciju tas neapturēs, sauc to par eiriku vai eiru. Pakaļa tā kā tā. 🙂

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  38. fizi_sists

    Atcerējos vienu tiešām stulbu un arī reālu (nevis sadomātu, kā "papele" – to jau neviens nav apstiprinājis) piemēru – un proti, "laimētava". Kad to pirmoreiz uz Čacenes redzēju, noturēju par attiecīgā spēļu cauruma salkanu reklāmu. Bet izrādījās – tas esot oficiāls termins – tur nu gan kāds ir kaut ko sajaucis. Precīzāk būtu "zaudētava".

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  39. fizi_sists

    Piekrītu, nav jau nekāda pasaules problēma tai nosaukumā. Mazliet aizsvilos, ka skaļākie protestētāji ir zēni, kuri paši 3 teikumus nevar sakarīgi latviešu valodā uzrakstīt, bet artikula vietā lieto Peugeot rusificētos variantus. Baigie letiņi.
    Bet visu gaišu, laiks zust, te saule sen jau norietējusi.

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  40. Fatalis

    piekrītu, nav jau nekāda pasaules problēma tai nosaukumā. Mazliet aizsvilos, ka skaļākie protestētāji ir zēni, kuri paši 3 teikumus nevar sakarīgi latviešu valodā uzrakstīt, bet artikula vietā lieto Peugeot rusificētos variantus.

    Bē, to pašu taču var teikt arī par eiras piekritējiem.

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  41. Spameris

    nu jaa.. shito es biju ja labu laiku apaklj dzirdeejis… idiotisms.. visaa pasaulee sauc par eiro a mums gudrajiem valodniekiem jaaizdomaa kaarteejais marasms.. nu ta nah vispaar to eiro vajadzeeja?? buutu ar saviem LS dziivojushi un miers..

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  42. Edza

    Neta uzgaju vienu interesanu LZA Terminoloģijas komisijas lēmum. Man bija loti jautri to visu lasiit.
    1. Atbilstoši tirgus pieprasījumam, resursu pieejamībai, valdības politikai un citiem faktoriem noteiktā teritorijā vienuviet koncentrējas vairāki viena profila uzņēmumi, kas juridiski savstarpēji ir vāji saistīti, tomēr sadarbojas un attiecīgajā nozarē viens otru papildina. Tautsaimniecībā tā ir jauna parādība, kas aktualizējusies arī Latvijā. Angļu valodā to apzīmē ar vārdu cluster, kura nozīme saistās ar ‘pudura’ jēdzienu.
    LZA Terminoloģijas komisija atzīst, ka pēc analoģijas ar angļu valodu arī latviešu valodā no iespējamiem variantiem apvienība, alianse, grupa, kopa, kopums, kopība, puduris, cers par ekvivalentu angļu terminam cluster šajā nozīmē priekšroka dodama terminam puduris, turklāt tas vienmēr lietojams kopā ar attiecīgiem apzīmētājiem: Informācijas tehnoloģijas sabiedrību puduris jeb IT puduris, Mežizstrādes uzņēmumu puduris u.tml.
    Pamatojums:
    1) tiek nosaukta jauna tipa apvienība, tāpēc noteiktas priekšrocības ir līdz šim šajā nozīmē nelietotam vārdam;
    2) jaunā tipa apvienības būtiskas pazīmes ir novietojuma tuvums un profila līdzība un to izsaka arī vārds puduris, sal.: koku puduris, ēku puduris, cilvēku puduris, tāpēc iespējams arī, piem., uzņēmumu puduris (savukārt anglisms “klasteris” (no cluster) latviešu valodā jēdzieniski ir tukšs, jo tam nav jēdzienisku saišu ar citiem latviešu valodā lietotiem vārdiem);
    3) no vārda puduris viegli veidojami atvasinājumi: pudurot, puduroties, pudurošana, pudurošanās, pudurojums, sapuduroties u.c.;
    4) jaunie, neparastie vārdu savienojumi, tādi kā apvienību puduris, organizāciju puduris, piesaista uzmanību un tāpēc kā specifiski veidojumi ir vieglāk iegaumējami.

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  43. Arturs

    Tas ir stulbi jo euro arii ir euro nevis kautkaada tu eura!!!Nosaukt euro par eira ir tas pats ka nosaukt masinu pegeot(pezo) par peza

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